1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:12,190 --> 00:00:09,299 [Applause] 3 00:00:15,070 --> 00:00:12,200 thanks for invitin I'm somewhat an 4 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:15,080 outsider to this field I work mostly in 5 00:00:21,189 --> 00:00:17,090 modern lake sediments but I have got 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:21,199 involved into in the early Earth working 7 00:00:26,980 --> 00:00:24,050 with Sean Crowe on Lake Matano and a key 8 00:00:28,929 --> 00:00:26,990 an analog and I had an enthusiastic PhD 9 00:00:33,130 --> 00:00:28,939 student who wanted to keep modeling this 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:33,140 stuff so I'll talk about how we 11 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:36,890 interprets the sulfa set of records in 12 00:00:42,610 --> 00:00:40,550 Keene sediments and also what we mean 13 00:00:45,810 --> 00:00:42,620 maybe missin current currently from 14 00:00:47,710 --> 00:00:45,820 those models so as was just presented 15 00:00:49,770 --> 00:00:47,720 there is pretty good evidence for 16 00:00:52,150 --> 00:00:49,780 coastal oxygenation just before the 17 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:52,160 great oxidation event before the 18 00:00:58,690 --> 00:00:56,510 atmosphere got oxygenated so we're 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:00:58,700 interested in how this may have affected 20 00:01:03,610 --> 00:01:00,890 the sulfate concentrations possibly 21 00:01:06,039 --> 00:01:03,620 methane fluxes as well and how we can 22 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:06,049 separate the signals that propagate from 23 00:01:10,719 --> 00:01:08,240 the atmosphere so the oceanic water 24 00:01:13,810 --> 00:01:10,729 column and get preserved in the 25 00:01:16,330 --> 00:01:13,820 sediments so when we look at this 26 00:01:18,940 --> 00:01:16,340 sulfides it obviously typical trends 27 00:01:20,710 --> 00:01:18,950 that we see or that mass independence 28 00:01:21,210 --> 00:01:20,720 also isotope fractionation disappeared 29 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:21,220 goe 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:25,310 and the predominant paradigm for some 31 00:01:32,890 --> 00:01:27,530 mass independent relation Asians is that 32 00:01:36,700 --> 00:01:32,900 ultraviolet radiation separate positive 33 00:01:41,290 --> 00:01:36,710 Delta negative Delta into the elemental 34 00:01:44,140 --> 00:01:41,300 sulfur pool and sulfate pool and these 35 00:01:48,190 --> 00:01:44,150 are incompletely mixed so the positive 36 00:01:49,690 --> 00:01:48,200 excursions get preserved the elemental 37 00:01:52,750 --> 00:01:49,700 sulfur can just proportionate also 38 00:01:55,860 --> 00:01:52,760 generate some sulfate but basically we 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:01:55,870 are looking at the sulfides preserved as 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:01:59,330 pyrite in marine sediments there is a 41 00:02:03,690 --> 00:02:01,970 relationship between mass independent 42 00:02:10,899 --> 00:02:03,700 fractionation Delta Center City and 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:10,909 Delta 34 so for a decrease in Delta 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:11,810 sata3 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:15,170 that is probably a decreased role of 46 00:02:19,449 --> 00:02:17,170 elemental sulfur we also see lighter 47 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:19,459 isotopes and sulfur which probably 48 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:28,040 when we try to simulate preservation of 49 00:02:34,460 --> 00:02:31,110 these signals we use diagenetic models 50 00:02:36,140 --> 00:02:34,470 which importantly are analogous to the 51 00:02:39,220 --> 00:02:36,150 models that we use in modern sediments 52 00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:39,230 that is we consider these sediments as 53 00:02:43,490 --> 00:02:41,310 analogous to modern sediments with 54 00:02:46,970 --> 00:02:43,500 sulfate diffuses from the water column 55 00:02:51,220 --> 00:02:46,980 into the sediments the sulfate reduction 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:51,230 happens and that's how we get our pyrite 57 00:02:55,550 --> 00:02:53,970 we also use fractionation microfracture 58 00:02:57,380 --> 00:02:55,560 nations that will learn in modern 59 00:03:00,340 --> 00:02:57,390 systems with more than microbial 60 00:03:05,990 --> 00:03:00,350 capabilities for the lack of better 61 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:06,000 information so this this is a picture 62 00:03:10,610 --> 00:03:08,910 from Lake Madonna which has high iron 63 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:10,620 concentrations this is in the water 64 00:03:16,540 --> 00:03:13,010 column you may as well consider 65 00:03:23,330 --> 00:03:16,550 stratified sediments sulfate diffuses in 66 00:03:24,740 --> 00:03:23,340 produces sulfide as sulfate diffuses in 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:24,750 and gets reduced 68 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:26,730 we have Rayleigh effects fractionation 69 00:03:35,390 --> 00:03:28,890 so sulfate gets isotopically havior 70 00:03:37,850 --> 00:03:35,400 sulfide while must track must be getting 71 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:37,860 as rapidly heavy as well the reason why 72 00:03:44,780 --> 00:03:40,890 we don't get exactly zero fractionation 73 00:03:46,940 --> 00:03:44,790 is that the system is open so because 74 00:03:48,740 --> 00:03:46,950 lighter isotopes are preferentially used 75 00:03:52,750 --> 00:03:48,750 up in the sediment emergency it's deep 76 00:03:55,220 --> 00:03:52,760 water column the gradients for the 77 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:55,230 lighter isotopes are steeper so there 78 00:04:01,240 --> 00:03:58,290 are more lighter isotopes diffusing in 79 00:04:04,430 --> 00:04:01,250 we get essentially the lighter sulphide 80 00:04:06,770 --> 00:04:04,440 if we assume that at low sulfate 81 00:04:08,979 --> 00:04:06,780 concentrations fractionation x' decrease 82 00:04:14,479 --> 00:04:08,989 because essentially all of the sulfate 83 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:14,489 is being used up we get load isotopic 84 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:18,000 differences Delta 34s between sulfate 85 00:04:26,060 --> 00:04:21,690 and sulfide and we could match this with 86 00:04:28,159 --> 00:04:26,070 a key and pyrite for fairly low sulfate 87 00:04:35,890 --> 00:04:28,169 very long actual sulfate can situations 88 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:35,900 below 5 micro molar and this work we can 89 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:38,510 develop the model further in more recent 90 00:04:46,030 --> 00:04:42,560 paper we included the oxidative cycling 91 00:04:50,590 --> 00:04:46,040 of sulfur where sulfide can get oxidized 92 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:50,600 so in coastal environments also put in 93 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:52,370 disproportionation of elemental sulfur 94 00:04:57,310 --> 00:04:54,650 that wasn't really considered there and 95 00:04:59,050 --> 00:04:57,320 what we found out is that oxygen well 96 00:05:00,460 --> 00:04:59,060 primarily limits sulfate reduction 97 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:00,470 because organic matter mineralization 98 00:05:12,219 --> 00:05:06,050 happens to some degree through a orbital 99 00:05:15,150 --> 00:05:12,229 this increases Delta 34 the oxidative 100 00:05:17,530 --> 00:05:15,160 recycling but paradoxically it also 101 00:05:18,940 --> 00:05:17,540 increases preservation of mass 102 00:05:20,469 --> 00:05:18,950 independent fractionation because you 103 00:05:22,510 --> 00:05:20,479 get less sulfate reduction so more 104 00:05:27,070 --> 00:05:22,520 signal gets carried through from 105 00:05:30,010 --> 00:05:27,080 elemental sulfur if we put this in the 106 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:30,020 context of sulfides atop records what 107 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:32,930 this what this seems to explain is the 108 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:36,530 increase in Delta status 3 leading up to 109 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:37,510 the goe 110 00:05:44,140 --> 00:05:40,310 coincident with the increase in Delta 34 111 00:05:46,420 --> 00:05:44,150 and if we try to put constraints on the 112 00:05:48,850 --> 00:05:46,430 sulfate concentrations that's consistent 113 00:05:50,650 --> 00:05:48,860 with this it looks like the sulfate can 114 00:05:52,570 --> 00:05:50,660 situation increased from about 50 115 00:05:54,219 --> 00:05:52,580 micromolar we relaxed the previous 116 00:05:57,610 --> 00:05:54,229 constraints on sulphate concentration to 117 00:06:01,360 --> 00:05:57,620 about 50 micromolar up to about 200 118 00:06:06,339 --> 00:06:01,370 micro molar and oxygen concentrations 119 00:06:09,070 --> 00:06:06,349 that could reach cup well 25 so micro 120 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:09,080 molar in the zeldo environments to 121 00:06:13,930 --> 00:06:11,180 reproduce this chance this also seems to 122 00:06:15,820 --> 00:06:13,940 suggest perhaps increase in organic 123 00:06:21,190 --> 00:06:15,830 productivity is the deposition of 124 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:21,200 organic carbon if we carry simulations 125 00:06:27,370 --> 00:06:24,710 further in time into the Proterozoic we 126 00:06:29,710 --> 00:06:27,380 could look at the sulfur budget in the 127 00:06:32,339 --> 00:06:29,720 Proterozoic ocean so in further simple 128 00:06:36,570 --> 00:06:32,349 model that considers coastal ocean 129 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:36,580 surface deep ocean and deep deep ocean 130 00:06:44,350 --> 00:06:41,690 for realistic fluxes input and output 131 00:06:46,540 --> 00:06:44,360 fluxes what we seem to have is that 132 00:06:49,460 --> 00:06:46,550 sulfate concentrations were in the 133 00:06:52,550 --> 00:06:49,470 hundreds of micro moles they were not 134 00:06:55,310 --> 00:06:52,560 as high as previously believed the 135 00:06:56,810 --> 00:06:55,320 important results from the sensitivity 136 00:06:59,420 --> 00:06:56,820 analysis is that the sulphate 137 00:07:00,770 --> 00:06:59,430 concentrations in the ocean seem to be 138 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:00,780 controlled by the presence of this 139 00:07:08,870 --> 00:07:04,710 anoxic a huge anoxic compartment if you 140 00:07:11,470 --> 00:07:08,880 oxygenate the water column this D 141 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:11,480 increases the sulphate concentrations 142 00:07:15,740 --> 00:07:13,890 tremendously by removing this deep sink 143 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:15,750 and this is how you can get millimolar 144 00:07:21,620 --> 00:07:19,290 or higher levels of sulphate but until 145 00:07:23,870 --> 00:07:21,630 the ocean deep ocean becomes excision 146 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:23,880 ated sulfate concentrations may have 147 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:31,440 remained for a little low so this is 148 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:33,710 this figure basically addresses this 149 00:07:41,870 --> 00:07:37,410 there are some exceptions to this result 150 00:07:44,930 --> 00:07:41,880 so Lagoon G seems to have high sulfate 151 00:07:47,780 --> 00:07:44,940 concentrations which may suggest that 152 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:47,790 the water column have been oxygenated 153 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:49,890 this have been suggested in the 154 00:07:56,750 --> 00:07:54,330 literature their genetic models show 155 00:07:58,460 --> 00:07:56,760 that basically the these sulfate 156 00:08:02,350 --> 00:07:58,470 concentrations are consistent with 157 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:02,360 sulphur isotope records if we consider 158 00:08:10,310 --> 00:08:06,690 tens of microns Aegean in the in the 159 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:10,320 surface ocean at these low sulfate con 160 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:13,290 situations methane fluxes are sufficient 161 00:08:20,030 --> 00:08:17,610 to maintain concentrations above 25 ppm 162 00:08:22,159 --> 00:08:20,040 v which have been suggested as 163 00:08:30,830 --> 00:08:22,169 sufficient to maintain the Earth's 164 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:30,840 glaciation free so I have in the 165 00:08:34,909 --> 00:08:32,640 Romanian a few minutes I'd like to talk 166 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:34,919 about the factors that we may not have 167 00:08:39,560 --> 00:08:37,410 put into this model like I said 168 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:39,570 previously we can say that sulfate 169 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:41,610 diffusion in from the water column that 170 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:43,770 was the primary source of sulfur to the 171 00:08:49,630 --> 00:08:46,410 sediments well if we look into the 172 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:49,640 modern lake sediments low sulfate lakes 173 00:08:54,829 --> 00:08:53,250 sulfate or salt and sulfide seem to be 174 00:08:58,340 --> 00:08:54,839 generated within the sediment from 175 00:09:00,950 --> 00:08:58,350 organic matter well these are the plots 176 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:00,960 from Lake Superior which is oxygen like 177 00:09:04,660 --> 00:09:02,730 Malawi which is borderline ferruginous 178 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:04,670 of 179 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:07,110 sulphate concentrations in the top 180 00:09:12,980 --> 00:09:09,210 layers of sediment are actually above 181 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:12,990 the layers the levels of sulphate in the 182 00:09:19,730 --> 00:09:14,610 overlying water so sulphate actually 183 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:19,740 fluxes out of the sediment well in lake 184 00:09:24,140 --> 00:09:22,110 montana serious fraction which is 185 00:09:27,370 --> 00:09:24,150 basically pyrite plus elemental sulfur 186 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:27,380 increases but the total amount of sulfur 187 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:29,850 actually decreases so we have a 188 00:09:35,780 --> 00:09:33,120 conversion from non serious fraction to 189 00:09:38,780 --> 00:09:35,790 share a fraction and this decrease is 190 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:38,790 consistent with the organic sulfur being 191 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:41,490 mineralized and so the ratio of sulfate 192 00:09:45,890 --> 00:09:43,770 sulfur total sulfur to total organic 193 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:45,900 carbon remains remarkably constant 194 00:09:51,170 --> 00:09:48,240 within the sediment which can suggest 195 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:51,180 the role for organic sulfur now this has 196 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:53,910 a profound effect instead of considering 197 00:09:59,840 --> 00:09:55,770 rayleigh distillation in the sediment 198 00:10:03,200 --> 00:09:59,850 column of water column we have sulfate 199 00:10:04,670 --> 00:10:03,210 and sulfide being generated within the 200 00:10:07,730 --> 00:10:04,680 sediment possibly with the isotopic 201 00:10:09,770 --> 00:10:07,740 effect of afghan excel for hydrolysis 202 00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:09,780 and so this changes the paradigm of how 203 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:13,680 we generate the isotopic signatures and 204 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:18,930 sediments if we put if we construct a 205 00:10:22,820 --> 00:10:21,090 model that simulates how much pyrite it 206 00:10:24,650 --> 00:10:22,830 you can generate turns out you can 207 00:10:27,410 --> 00:10:24,660 generate at low sulphate concentrations 208 00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:27,420 you can generate all pyrite in the 209 00:10:37,550 --> 00:10:33,480 sediment from organic sulfur and so if 210 00:10:41,780 --> 00:10:37,560 you consider organic sulfur in organic 211 00:10:45,020 --> 00:10:41,790 debris prokaryotic cells actually leg 212 00:10:46,850 --> 00:10:45,030 Lac plus six like sulfates but they do 213 00:10:49,850 --> 00:10:46,860 have sulfonates which is plus four and 214 00:10:51,740 --> 00:10:49,860 of course they have plus minus two 215 00:10:55,550 --> 00:10:51,750 oxidation state so you generate both 216 00:10:58,310 --> 00:10:55,560 sulfide and sulfite from mineralization 217 00:10:59,570 --> 00:10:58,320 and sulfite reduction is actually 218 00:11:05,150 --> 00:10:59,580 energetically more favorable than 219 00:11:07,070 --> 00:11:05,160 sulfate reduction so if you form pyrite 220 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:07,080 out of this source the resultant 221 00:11:10,910 --> 00:11:08,610 signatures are also consistent with the 222 00:11:13,850 --> 00:11:10,920 ork record it's also consistent with 223 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:13,860 some other lines of evidence that show 224 00:11:19,220 --> 00:11:16,529 while sulfate reduction has a 225 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:19,230 volved laters and sulfate reduction in 226 00:11:27,530 --> 00:11:23,689 fact as late as 2.7 billion years ago 227 00:11:29,540 --> 00:11:27,540 and this also seems to suggest that you 228 00:11:34,519 --> 00:11:29,550 don't need as much sulfate in the water 229 00:11:37,549 --> 00:11:34,529 column so if you look at the sulfur to 230 00:11:39,980 --> 00:11:37,559 carbon ratio in living cells it's pretty 231 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:39,990 similar to phosphorous to carbon ratio 232 00:11:46,869 --> 00:11:43,889 about 1% so these levels sulfate could 233 00:11:49,939 --> 00:11:46,879 have been a limiting nutrient for life 234 00:11:52,689 --> 00:11:49,949 the well depending on what you believe 235 00:11:55,220 --> 00:11:52,699 about a key in productivity 236 00:11:58,720 --> 00:11:55,230 mineralization of organic sulfur could 237 00:12:03,739 --> 00:11:58,730 generate enough sulfur to account for 238 00:12:05,660 --> 00:12:03,749 global pyrite fluxes and it's comparable 239 00:12:07,429 --> 00:12:05,670 to the flux of sulfur in from the 240 00:12:11,929 --> 00:12:07,439 hydrothermal system or actually exceeds 241 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:11,939 that works so organic sulfur probably 242 00:12:22,670 --> 00:12:17,850 needs to be considered if you try to 243 00:12:24,319 --> 00:12:22,680 forecast the effects on the isotopic 244 00:12:27,319 --> 00:12:24,329 signatures this is Delta set of 3 245 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:27,329 Delta's 34 depending on what you believe 246 00:12:31,429 --> 00:12:29,040 about the simulation of organic sulfur 247 00:12:33,889 --> 00:12:31,439 into the organisms it's probably false 248 00:12:39,860 --> 00:12:33,899 on the continuum between elemental 249 00:12:42,379 --> 00:12:39,870 sulfur and sulfate sulfide the microbial 250 00:12:46,429 --> 00:12:42,389 reactions would make would shift the 251 00:12:50,710 --> 00:12:46,439 result and solve pyrite to the left here 252 00:12:54,049 --> 00:12:50,720 interestingly around this area we find 253 00:12:57,670 --> 00:12:54,059 sulfides in microbial mats which again 254 00:13:05,749 --> 00:12:57,680 organic reach system with abundant 255 00:13:08,650 --> 00:13:05,759 organic sulfur I have just a few more 256 00:13:12,650 --> 00:13:08,660 minutes I want to briefly comment on 257 00:13:15,980 --> 00:13:12,660 other factors that other uncertainties 258 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:15,990 in our interpretations we don't really 259 00:13:21,290 --> 00:13:19,170 know what happens at low concentrations 260 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:21,300 and low concentrations and low rates are 261 00:13:27,499 --> 00:13:24,360 not the same this is a figure from a 262 00:13:29,870 --> 00:13:27,509 recent review that showed that these are 263 00:13:33,620 --> 00:13:29,880 the bars 264 00:13:35,210 --> 00:13:33,630 are the specific cell specific sulfate 265 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:35,220 reduction rates in more than marine 266 00:13:42,140 --> 00:13:38,250 sediments these are the data points 267 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:42,150 found in more than experiments we will 268 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:46,880 lack data on low sulfate reduction rate 269 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:53,090 specifics sulfate reduction rate low 270 00:13:58,460 --> 00:13:56,250 reduction rates however cell specific 271 00:14:01,340 --> 00:13:58,470 production rates are not necessarily 272 00:14:04,850 --> 00:14:01,350 associated with low concentrations below 273 00:14:06,770 --> 00:14:04,860 about 500 micro molar of sulfate sulfate 274 00:14:08,390 --> 00:14:06,780 reduction rate starts being limited by 275 00:14:10,460 --> 00:14:08,400 sulfate but organic matter is still 276 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:10,470 important so when you look at the 277 00:14:15,380 --> 00:14:13,170 software production rates in lakes where 278 00:14:17,150 --> 00:14:15,390 concentrations of sulfate adjust tens of 279 00:14:18,620 --> 00:14:17,160 micrometer they're not that different 280 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:18,630 from marine sediments were 281 00:14:22,370 --> 00:14:20,610 considerations of sulfate are a thousand 282 00:14:26,710 --> 00:14:22,380 times greater because they are 283 00:14:29,660 --> 00:14:26,720 controlled mostly by organic matter so 284 00:14:32,210 --> 00:14:29,670 we probably don't need to look that deep 285 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:32,220 into marine sediments to those low cell 286 00:14:39,790 --> 00:14:37,410 specific rate and finally we have to be 287 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:39,800 conscious of the sampling bias the 288 00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:41,970 sulfate reduction modern sediments 289 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:43,440 happens predominantly in coastal 290 00:14:48,530 --> 00:14:45,600 sediments and coastal sediment extremely 291 00:14:50,030 --> 00:14:48,540 heterogeneous environments if we we try 292 00:14:52,130 --> 00:14:50,040 to say something about modern 293 00:14:54,050 --> 00:14:52,140 environments by looking at the more than 294 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:54,060 Ocean at just a few locations that try 295 00:14:57,860 --> 00:14:56,010 to extrapolate to the entire planet we 296 00:14:59,720 --> 00:14:57,870 probably would have been laughed at but 297 00:15:01,340 --> 00:14:59,730 that's Excel essentially what we do for 298 00:15:03,170 --> 00:15:01,350 the early Earth for the lack of better 299 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:03,180 alternative I think we have to be 300 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:06,370 conscious of that I'll end here 301 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:09,930 [Applause] 302 00:15:33,020 --> 00:15:30,600 going from you know the sulfate 303 00:15:35,820 --> 00:15:33,030 reduction pathway or disproportionation 304 00:15:38,190 --> 00:15:35,830 how is the sulfur complex to organic 305 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:38,200 matter once it gets out of the cell but 306 00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:39,490 does that matter in terms of the 307 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:41,440 isotopic signature fractionation or the 308 00:15:44,730 --> 00:15:42,970 way it's process in other words it can 309 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:44,740 be bound to different types of organic 310 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:47,290 functional groups right I think it's 311 00:15:51,780 --> 00:15:49,750 very important especially which step 312 00:15:54,330 --> 00:15:51,790 during our mineralization is a rate 313 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:54,340 limiting we don't have that much 314 00:15:58,230 --> 00:15:56,290 information on how sulfur gets 315 00:15:59,940 --> 00:15:58,240 fractionated there are there is some 316 00:16:01,500 --> 00:15:59,950 information primarily from lab studies 317 00:16:04,980 --> 00:16:01,510 but I think that's what we need to